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Axis Trifecta: Axis Reserve, Axis Magnus, Axis Atlas

Subhankar

TF Ace
TF Family
Chief Mod
Axis Bank from being the least rewarding cards, becomes the highest rewarding cards of the current times after the introduction of the Loyalty Program transfer option of Edge Points, as well as they brought the Atlas card with a completely different Point System, called Edge Miles.

The best of the loyalty program conversion comes to the HNI cards, such as Axis One, Reserve, Magnus and ofcourse the Atlas with Edge Miles. Now let's see if you're having Reserve, Magnus and Atlas together, what you can achieve in terms of cost vs reward.

Please do note this trifecta is useful for the high spenders, or I should say, significantly high spenders. You'll be paying significant amount in fees as well.


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Sweet Spots:

💳 Reserve:


1. Flat 6% reward rate
2. 2x RP on forex spends which also do earn 12% reward rate, the highest among all credit cards in India
3. 4 Airport Transfers (few with Merc, BMW, Audi) and 8 Meet and Greet service
4. 12 Guest Visit both on domestic and international lounge along with Unlimited access, even on add-on card and add-on cards' Priority Pass
5. 1.5% forex markup
6. Hotel Memberships like ITC Culinaire, AccorPlus Silver where AccorPlus comes with 2 free night of stay instead of 1 in standard memberships
7. 50K Edge Points both on joining and renewal irrespective of annual fee paid or not

💳 Magnus:

1. Flat 4.8% reward rate
2. Bonus 25K RP on monthly 1L spends which can give return of 24.8%
3. 5x RP on Travel Edge and Gift Edge with no cap on bonus RP earned
4. Markup is 2%, forex spends will earn significant amount of return only when hitting more than 1L monthly spending mark

💳 Atlas:

Makes good sense only if you can spend 15L in a year and has revenue flight booking


1. 5K Edge Miles on joining, 10K EM on renewal if hitting Platinum tier of 15L spending
2. Bonus 10K EM on 15L spends
3. 5x EM on booking through Airline’s website & Travel Edge

Note:

1. Effective from mid of December 2022, Atlas will be earning 2 Edge Miles instead of 1 Edge Miles per ₹100 spent, which makes it direct competitor to Citi Prestige and gives us a hint that Citi Prestige holders may get Atlas after the complete shifting of Citi Bank's business to Axis Bank.
2. You can pay directly to hotels and earn 5x Edge Miles.
3. The milestone is coming is 2,500 , 5,000 , 10,000 Edge Miles, so as stated above, it'd earn 17,500 bonus Edge Miles in total if you spend 15L on you card in a year.


The total Edge Miles earned will be 30K + 17.5K + 5K = 52.5K which will translate into 1,05,000 Loyalty Program points (except Marriott Bonvoy)


Now if you have all of these 3 cards together, you’re paying 65K + GST as fee and for waiver of fee which is applicable only on Magnus & Reserve and you’re looking at 40L of spends on these two cards only for the fee waiver milestone.

Adding Atlas in the trifecta, to get the ideal value, you’re looking at another 15L spends. Accumulating 55L of spends altogether.


Yes, the spends are crazy high, and I had already mentioned it’s for specific set of people only. But very few can hit the ideal spending mark. So alternative?

Now let’s see when you should and shouldn’t get the specific card of this trifecta.

Considering you’re not doing THE IDEAL SPENDING on each of the card.


💳 Reserve:

Makes sense only if you’re a high spender. People with minimum 2-4L of monthly spends.


Have a significant amount of forex spends. 2x the RP. Lower markup of 1.5%. Even after the markup it’s a 10.23% flat return which is still the highest so far among all the cards.

Looking for lifestyle benefits. Be it airport transfers, Meet & Greet, Guest Visit for both Domestic and International airport lounge.

Hotel memberships of ITC Culinaire, AccorPlus Silver which comes with 2 free nights instead of 1. It’s an added benefit from Axis itself.

Keeping it along with Magnus, post 1L put all the spends on Reserve for 6-12% of value back.

Even if you don’t hit the 25L spending milestone and end up paying the fee, you get compensated with 50K Edge RP + renewal of all the other benefits.



💳 Magnus:


Do I even need to explain?

Get this card only if you can pull off 1L spending for at least 4-6 months (no forced spending, please be responsible). I took time to take the card only for this reason as there was not excess 1L spending consistent every month earlier.

Try to maximise with Gift Edge by buying vouchers of your necessary retailers. RP Multiplier, a fast rack way to gather pts.

Even if you don’t hit 15L milestone for fee waiver you get to choose between 10K Tata Cliq voucher & Flight ticket. Well compensated.


💳 Atlas:


A card if properly used can fetch 10% value back if used in the right segment.

Only get if you can put minimum 7.5L spends separately to it to get the Gold Tier. For 5K joining and annual fee you get: 5K + 5K = 10K Edge Miles which translates to 20K loyalty pts except Bonvoy.

This card is super useful for the domestic frequent flyer unless you’re flying Visara. For Vistara, get the Vistara Infinite.

It gives 2x the RP if you’re making reservation through respective airline’s website. Which can fetch 10% return easily.

Note:

Effective from mid of December, 2022, you can pay directly to the hotel to get the 5x Edge Reward Points.



Now, let’s calculate a scenario and total pts earned and convert them to everyone’s favourite KrisFlyer at 5:4 for Magnus and Reserve and at 1:2 for Atlas.

I’m going to take the least amount of expected spending from the respective card holder going by their spending power.



💳 Reserve:

Let’s consider the annual spending 15L. So you’re paying both the fee.


From joining to first year’s renewal:
50K Edge RP x2 = 100K Edge RP

Considering 5L forex spends out of 15L annual spends.
So for 5L forex spends total Edge RP = 75K Edge RP

For the rest of the 10L spends the Edge RP you’ll earn is = 75K

Total Edge RP Earned: 1,00,000 + 75,000 + 75,000 = 2,50,000

KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 2,00,000


Total Fee Paid (including GST): ₹1,18,00


💳 Magnus:

Let’s consider the annual spending is 10L on it and you’re hitting the 1L spending milestone at least 5 times in a year.


If hitting 1L milestone 5 times the total Edge RP you’ll earn = 1,25,00

For 10L spends the total Edge RP earned = 60K

Total Edge RP Earned: 1,25,00 + 60,000= 1,85,000

KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 1,48,000

Total Fee Paid (including GST): ₹23,600



💳 Atlas:

Considering you’re hitting Gold tier by spending 7.5L and you’re doing 3L worth of airline transactions.
For 3L spend you’re getting 5x EM. So you’re getting 15K EM for 3L airline spends.

For the rest 4.5L worth of spend total EM earned = 4.5K (Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 9K Edge Miles instead of 4.5K Edge Miles in this specific spending)

You get 5K Edge Miles as joining benefit

As you’re hitting Gold tier, you’ll get 5K Edge Miles at the time of renewal as well

Adding to that you'll be getting 2 tier milestone of 2.5L and 7.5L spending which are 2.5k Edge Miles and 5k Edge Miles respectively

Total Edge Miles earned: 15K + 4.5K + 5K + 5K +2.5K +5K= 37K (Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 41.5K Edge Miles instead of 37K Edge Miles in this specific spending)

KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 74,00 (Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 98K KrisFlyer Miles instead of 74K KrisFlyer Miles in this specific spending)

Total Fee Paid (including GST): ₹11,800



The Trifecta:


Total Fee Paid: ₹1,53,400 (Joining + Annual including GST)

Total KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 4,07,500
(Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 446K KrisFlyer Miles instead of 407K KrisFlyer Miles in this specific spending)

For the sake of illustration, that’s about 3 times round trip in Singapore Airlines in F class in BOM/DEL 🔁 SIN route and 1 time BOM/DEL ➡️ SIN one way F class

If you check the revenue cost of this route at same class, the single round trip alone costs 3L which most of us will never pay. In total the points will be 10.5L worth of flight fare.

The fee you pay is high but the reward is HUGE. Not to forget you’re spending 32.5L.

This trifecta is going to serve a lot of people who’ve this amount of spends. If you’re a frequent flyer of Vistara, go grab the Vistara Infinite instead of Atlas.

Is this trifecta going to be useful for you according to your spends? Let me know!
 

Amrish

TF Buzz
VIP Lounge
Do gyftr transactions earn similar multiplier (5x,10x) for these cards. I'm guessing for Magnus and Reserve they would. Not sure for Atlas.
Also, if you have Magnus and Reserve both, is there any way to get say amazon vouchers for 20k instead of the 10k per account limit on gyftr
 

Avijeet

TF Premier
VIP Lounge
@Subhankar Sir ....
Need more clarity on 5X 10X ... and GrabDeals benefit for Atlas

I am currently holding
  • Magnus
  • Ace
  • Flipkart RESERVE (Applied)
My Plan is to use Magnus till 1.01L and Reserve after that
International Transactions - Blindly Reserve
Ace - After getting Magnus... I have been using only for small transactions below 200 wala

So advice .... if I upgrade ACE to ATLAS ... will it add more value.

Further, INSURANCE ...

What is the best card for transactions Below and Above 1L?

Regards,
Avijeet
 

787

TF Premier
VIP Lounge
Axis Bank from being the least rewarding cards, becomes the highest rewarding cards of the current times after the introduction of the Loyalty Program transfer option of Edge Points, as well as they brought the Atlas card with a completely different Point System, called Edge Miles.

The best of the loyalty program conversion comes to the HNI cards, such as Axis One, Reserve, Magnus and ofcourse the Atlas with Edge Miles. Now let's see if you're having Reserve, Magnus and Atlas together, what you can achieve in terms of cost vs reward.

Please do note this trifecta is useful for the high spenders, or I should say, significantly high spenders. You'll be paying significant amount in fees as well.


IMG_4228.JPEG



Sweet Spots:

💳 Reserve:


1. Flat 6% reward rate
2. 2x RP on forex spends which also do earn 12% reward rate, the highest among all credit cards in India
3. 4 Airport Transfers (few with Merc, BMW, Audi) and 8 Meet and Greet service
4. 12 Guest Visit both on domestic and international lounge along with Unlimited access, even on add-on card and add-on cards' Priority Pass
5. 1.5% forex markup
6. Hotel Memberships like ITC Culinaire, AccorPlus Silver where AccorPlus comes with 2 free night of stay instead of 1 in standard memberships
7. 50K Edge Points both on joining and renewal irrespective of annual fee paid or not

💳 Magnus:

1. Flat 4.8% reward rate
2. Bonus 25K RP on monthly 1L spends which can give return of 24.8%
3. 5x RP on Travel Edge and Gift Edge with no cap on bonus RP earned
4. Markup is 2%, forex spends will earn significant amount of return only when hitting more than 1L monthly spending mark

💳 Atlas:

Makes good sense only if you can spend 15L in a year and has revenue flight booking


1. 5K Edge Miles on joining, 10K EM on renewal if hitting Platinum tier of 15L spending
2. Bonus 10K EM on 15L spends
3. 5x EM on booking through Airline’s website & Travel Edge

Note:

1. Effective from mid of December 2022, Atlas will be earning 2 Edge Miles instead of 1 Edge Miles per ₹100 spent, which makes it direct competitor to Citi Prestige and gives us a hint that Citi Prestige holders may get Atlas after the complete shifting of Citi Bank's business to Axis Bank.
2. You can pay directly to hotels and earn 5x Edge Miles.
3. The milestone is coming is 2,500 , 5,000 , 10,000 Edge Miles, so as stated above, it'd earn 17,500 bonus Edge Miles in total if you spend 15L on you card in a year.


The total Edge Miles earned will be 30K + 17.5K + 5K = 52.5K which will translate into 1,05,000 Loyalty Program points (except Marriott Bonvoy)


Now if you have all of these 3 cards together, you’re paying 65K + GST as fee and for waiver of fee which is applicable only on Magnus & Reserve and you’re looking at 40L of spends on these two cards only for the fee waiver milestone.

Adding Atlas in the trifecta, to get the ideal value, you’re looking at another 15L spends. Accumulating 55L of spends altogether.


Yes, the spends are crazy high, and I had already mentioned it’s for specific set of people only. But very few can hit the ideal spending mark. So alternative?

Now let’s see when you should and shouldn’t get the specific card of this trifecta.

Considering you’re not doing THE IDEAL SPENDING on each of the card.


💳 Reserve:

Makes sense only if you’re a high spender. People with minimum 2-4L of monthly spends.


Have a significant amount of forex spends. 2x the RP. Lower markup of 1.5%. Even after the markup it’s a 10.23% flat return which is still the highest so far among all the cards.

Looking for lifestyle benefits. Be it airport transfers, Meet & Greet, Guest Visit for both Domestic and International airport lounge.

Hotel memberships of ITC Culinaire, AccorPlus Silver which comes with 2 free nights instead of 1. It’s an added benefit from Axis itself.

Keeping it along with Magnus, post 1L put all the spends on Reserve for 6-12% of value back.

Even if you don’t hit the 25L spending milestone and end up paying the fee, you get compensated with 50K Edge RP + renewal of all the other benefits.



💳 Magnus:


Do I even need to explain?

Get this card only if you can pull off 1L spending for at least 4-6 months (no forced spending, please be responsible). I took time to take the card only for this reason as there was not excess 1L spending consistent every month earlier.

Try to maximise with Gift Edge by buying vouchers of your necessary retailers. RP Multiplier, a fast rack way to gather pts.

Even if you don’t hit 15L milestone for fee waiver you get to choose between 10K Tata Cliq voucher & Flight ticket. Well compensated.


💳 Atlas:


A card if properly used can fetch 10% value back if used in the right segment.

Only get if you can put minimum 7.5L spends separately to it to get the Gold Tier. For 5K joining and annual fee you get: 5K + 5K = 10K Edge Miles which translates to 20K loyalty pts except Bonvoy.

This card is super useful for the domestic frequent flyer unless you’re flying Visara. For Vistara, get the Vistara Infinite.

It gives 2x the RP if you’re making reservation through respective airline’s website. Which can fetch 10% return easily.

Note:

Effective from mid of December, 2022, you can pay directly to the hotel to get the 5x Edge Reward Points.



Now, let’s calculate a scenario and total pts earned and convert them to everyone’s favourite KrisFlyer at 5:4 for Magnus and Reserve and at 1:2 for Atlas.

I’m going to take the least amount of expected spending from the respective card holder going by their spending power.



💳 Reserve:

Let’s consider the annual spending 15L. So you’re paying both the fee.


From joining to first year’s renewal:
50K Edge RP x2 = 100K Edge RP

Considering 5L forex spends out of 15L annual spends.
So for 5L forex spends total Edge RP = 75K Edge RP

For the rest of the 10L spends the Edge RP you’ll earn is = 75K

Total Edge RP Earned: 1,00,00 + 75,000 + 75,000 = 2,50,000

KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 2,00,000


Total Fee Paid (including GST): ₹1,18,00


💳 Magnus:

Let’s consider the annual spending is 10L on it and you’re hitting the 1L spending milestone at least 5 times in a year.


If hitting 1L milestone 5 times the total Edge RP you’ll earn = 1,25,00

For 10L spends the total Edge RP earned = 60K

Total Edge RP Earned: 1,25,00 + 60,000= 1,85,000

KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 1,48,000

Total Fee Paid (including GST): ₹23,600



💳 Atlas:

Considering you’re hitting Gold tier by spending 7.5L and you’re doing 3L worth of airline transactions.
For 3L spend you’re getting 5x EM. So you’re getting 15K EM for 3L airline spends. (Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 30K Edge Miles instead of 15K Edge Miles in this specific spending)

For the rest 4.5L worth of spend total EM earned = 4.5K (Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 9K Edge Miles instead of 4.5K Edge Miles in this specific spending)

You get 5K Edge Miles as joining benefit

As you’re hitting Gold tier, you’ll get 5K Edge Miles at the time of renewal as well

Adding to that you'll be getting 2 tier milestone of 2.5L and 7.5L spending which are 2.5k Edge Miles and 5k Edge Miles respectively

Total Edge Miles earned: 15K + 4.5K + 5K + 5K +2.5K +5K= 37K (Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 56.5K Edge Miles instead of 37K Edge Miles in this specific spending)

KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 74,00 (Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 113K KrisFlyer Miles instead of 74K KrisFlyer Miles in this specific spending)

Total Fee Paid (including GST): ₹11,800



The Trifecta:


Total Fee Paid: ₹1,53,400 (Joining + Annual including GST)

Total KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 4,07,500
(Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 461K KrisFlyer Miles instead of 407K KrisFlyer Miles in this specific spending)

For the sake of illustration, that’s about 3 times round trip in Singapore Airlines in F class in BOM/DEL 🔁 SIN route and 1 time BOM/DEL ➡️ SIN one way F class

If you check the revenue cost of this route at same class, the single round trip alone costs 3L which most of us will never pay. In total the points will be 10.5L worth of flight fare.

The fee you pay is high but the reward is HUGE. Not to forget you’re spending 32.5L.

This trifecta is going to serve a lot of people who’ve this amount of spends. If you’re a frequent flyer of Vistara, go grab the Vistara Infinite instead of Atlas.

Is this trifecta going to be useful for you according to your spends? Let me know!
Axis Bank from being the least rewarding cards, becomes the highest rewarding cards of the current times after the introduction of the Loyalty Program transfer option of Edge Points, as well as they brought the Atlas card with a completely different Point System, called Edge Miles.

The best of the loyalty program conversion comes to the HNI cards, such as Axis One, Reserve, Magnus and ofcourse the Atlas with Edge Miles. Now let's see if you're having Reserve, Magnus and Atlas together, what you can achieve in terms of cost vs reward.

Please do note this trifecta is useful for the high spenders, or I should say, significantly high spenders. You'll be paying significant amount in fees as well.


IMG_4228.JPEG



Sweet Spots:

💳 Reserve:


1. Flat 6% reward rate
2. 2x RP on forex spends which also do earn 12% reward rate, the highest among all credit cards in India
3. 4 Airport Transfers (few with Merc, BMW, Audi) and 8 Meet and Greet service
4. 12 Guest Visit both on domestic and international lounge along with Unlimited access, even on add-on card and add-on cards' Priority Pass
5. 1.5% forex markup
6. Hotel Memberships like ITC Culinaire, AccorPlus Silver where AccorPlus comes with 2 free night of stay instead of 1 in standard memberships
7. 50K Edge Points both on joining and renewal irrespective of annual fee paid or not

💳 Magnus:

1. Flat 4.8% reward rate
2. Bonus 25K RP on monthly 1L spends which can give return of 24.8%
3. 5x RP on Travel Edge and Gift Edge with no cap on bonus RP earned
4. Markup is 2%, forex spends will earn significant amount of return only when hitting more than 1L monthly spending mark

💳 Atlas:

Makes good sense only if you can spend 15L in a year and has revenue flight booking


1. 5K Edge Miles on joining, 10K EM on renewal if hitting Platinum tier of 15L spending
2. Bonus 10K EM on 15L spends
3. 5x EM on booking through Airline’s website & Travel Edge

Note:

1. Effective from mid of December 2022, Atlas will be earning 2 Edge Miles instead of 1 Edge Miles per ₹100 spent, which makes it direct competitor to Citi Prestige and gives us a hint that Citi Prestige holders may get Atlas after the complete shifting of Citi Bank's business to Axis Bank.
2. You can pay directly to hotels and earn 5x Edge Miles.
3. The milestone is coming is 2,500 , 5,000 , 10,000 Edge Miles, so as stated above, it'd earn 17,500 bonus Edge Miles in total if you spend 15L on you card in a year.


The total Edge Miles earned will be 30K + 17.5K + 5K = 52.5K which will translate into 1,05,000 Loyalty Program points (except Marriott Bonvoy)


Now if you have all of these 3 cards together, you’re paying 65K + GST as fee and for waiver of fee which is applicable only on Magnus & Reserve and you’re looking at 40L of spends on these two cards only for the fee waiver milestone.

Adding Atlas in the trifecta, to get the ideal value, you’re looking at another 15L spends. Accumulating 55L of spends altogether.


Yes, the spends are crazy high, and I had already mentioned it’s for specific set of people only. But very few can hit the ideal spending mark. So alternative?

Now let’s see when you should and shouldn’t get the specific card of this trifecta.

Considering you’re not doing THE IDEAL SPENDING on each of the card.


💳 Reserve:

Makes sense only if you’re a high spender. People with minimum 2-4L of monthly spends.


Have a significant amount of forex spends. 2x the RP. Lower markup of 1.5%. Even after the markup it’s a 10.23% flat return which is still the highest so far among all the cards.

Looking for lifestyle benefits. Be it airport transfers, Meet & Greet, Guest Visit for both Domestic and International airport lounge.

Hotel memberships of ITC Culinaire, AccorPlus Silver which comes with 2 free nights instead of 1. It’s an added benefit from Axis itself.

Keeping it along with Magnus, post 1L put all the spends on Reserve for 6-12% of value back.

Even if you don’t hit the 25L spending milestone and end up paying the fee, you get compensated with 50K Edge RP + renewal of all the other benefits.



💳 Magnus:


Do I even need to explain?

Get this card only if you can pull off 1L spending for at least 4-6 months (no forced spending, please be responsible). I took time to take the card only for this reason as there was not excess 1L spending consistent every month earlier.

Try to maximise with Gift Edge by buying vouchers of your necessary retailers. RP Multiplier, a fast rack way to gather pts.

Even if you don’t hit 15L milestone for fee waiver you get to choose between 10K Tata Cliq voucher & Flight ticket. Well compensated.


💳 Atlas:


A card if properly used can fetch 10% value back if used in the right segment.

Only get if you can put minimum 7.5L spends separately to it to get the Gold Tier. For 5K joining and annual fee you get: 5K + 5K = 10K Edge Miles which translates to 20K loyalty pts except Bonvoy.

This card is super useful for the domestic frequent flyer unless you’re flying Visara. For Vistara, get the Vistara Infinite.

It gives 2x the RP if you’re making reservation through respective airline’s website. Which can fetch 10% return easily.

Note:

Effective from mid of December, 2022, you can pay directly to the hotel to get the 5x Edge Reward Points.



Now, let’s calculate a scenario and total pts earned and convert them to everyone’s favourite KrisFlyer at 5:4 for Magnus and Reserve and at 1:2 for Atlas.

I’m going to take the least amount of expected spending from the respective card holder going by their spending power.



💳 Reserve:

Let’s consider the annual spending 15L. So you’re paying both the fee.


From joining to first year’s renewal:
50K Edge RP x2 = 100K Edge RP

Considering 5L forex spends out of 15L annual spends.
So for 5L forex spends total Edge RP = 75K Edge RP

For the rest of the 10L spends the Edge RP you’ll earn is = 75K

Total Edge RP Earned: 1,00,00 + 75,000 + 75,000 = 2,50,000

KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 2,00,000


Total Fee Paid (including GST): ₹1,18,00


💳 Magnus:

Let’s consider the annual spending is 10L on it and you’re hitting the 1L spending milestone at least 5 times in a year.


If hitting 1L milestone 5 times the total Edge RP you’ll earn = 1,25,00

For 10L spends the total Edge RP earned = 60K

Total Edge RP Earned: 1,25,00 + 60,000= 1,85,000

KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 1,48,000

Total Fee Paid (including GST): ₹23,600



💳 Atlas:

Considering you’re hitting Gold tier by spending 7.5L and you’re doing 3L worth of airline transactions.
For 3L spend you’re getting 5x EM. So you’re getting 15K EM for 3L airline spends. (Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 30K Edge Miles instead of 15K Edge Miles in this specific spending)

For the rest 4.5L worth of spend total EM earned = 4.5K (Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 9K Edge Miles instead of 4.5K Edge Miles in this specific spending)

You get 5K Edge Miles as joining benefit

As you’re hitting Gold tier, you’ll get 5K Edge Miles at the time of renewal as well

Adding to that you'll be getting 2 tier milestone of 2.5L and 7.5L spending which are 2.5k Edge Miles and 5k Edge Miles respectively

Total Edge Miles earned: 15K + 4.5K + 5K + 5K +2.5K +5K= 37K (Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 56.5K Edge Miles instead of 37K Edge Miles in this specific spending)

KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 74,00 (Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 113K KrisFlyer Miles instead of 74K KrisFlyer Miles in this specific spending)

Total Fee Paid (including GST): ₹11,800



The Trifecta:


Total Fee Paid: ₹1,53,400 (Joining + Annual including GST)

Total KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 4,07,500
(Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 461K KrisFlyer Miles instead of 407K KrisFlyer Miles in this specific spending)

For the sake of illustration, that’s about 3 times round trip in Singapore Airlines in F class in BOM/DEL 🔁 SIN route and 1 time BOM/DEL ➡️ SIN one way F class

If you check the revenue cost of this route at same class, the single round trip alone costs 3L which most of us will never pay. In total the points will be 10.5L worth of flight fare.

The fee you pay is high but the reward is HUGE. Not to forget you’re spending 32.5L.

This trifecta is going to serve a lot of people who’ve this amount of spends. If you’re a frequent flyer of Vistara, go grab the Vistara Infinite instead of Atlas.

Is this trifecta going to be useful for you according to your spends? Let me know!
Hi subhankar

This implies that we will get 5x 2 =10x on travel spends.

Whereas the update in dec 22 was that it’s 2x edge miles on other spends and 5 Edge Miles on airline/hotel spends.

Request you to please clarify whether we’ll get double points (10 EM) on travel spends also?

Thank you!
 

kkk

TF Ace
VIP Lounge
I was considering taking this trifecta, but why would I chose Atlas card when I already have Magnus. Magnus reward is always better than Atlas. Reserve atleast has some benefits which are better than Magnus but I don't understand what's the advantage of Atlas over Magnus?
 
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787

TF Premier
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I was considering taking this trifecta, but why would I chose Atlas card when I already have Magnus. Magnus reward is always better than Atlas. Reserve atleast has some benefits which are better than Magnus but I don't understand what's the advantage of Atlas over Magnus?
Yes please elaborate.

I think even a 4000-5000 ER benefit, if there was one, in case of taking the atlas in addition to the Magnus would not be worth the hassle.
 

kkk

TF Ace
VIP Lounge
Yes please elaborate.

I think even a 4000-5000 ER benefit, if there was one, in case of taking the atlas in addition to the Magnus would not be worth the hassle.
I almost applied it today before doing calculation. When I can do spend of 15 lakh to get Atlas benefit, why not to do the same on Magnus. In all scenario I was able to end up having more miles compared to Atlas. I applied for Reserve but it got rejected because of 3 card rule, so today cancelled Axis Flipkart and will be re-applying for Reserve. Was planning to cancel MyZone LTF to get Axis atlas but now thinking not to do. If I am ready to do spend 30-40 lakh, why not spend on Magnus and Reserve. This will give far better miles compared to Atlas. The only advantage I see in atlas is flexibility to book any flight/hotel on traveledge with Edge miles which would give better returns if we pay with miles. Other than that if we have to transfer to partner miles then I think Magnus and Reserve will always beat Atlas in all scenario.
 

787

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I almost applied it today before doing calculation. When I can do spend of 15 lakh to get Atlas benefit, why not to do the same on Magnus. In all scenario I was able to end up having more miles compared to Atlas. I applied for Reserve but it got rejected because of 3 card rule, so today cancelled Axis Flipkart and will be re-applying for Reserve. Was planning to cancel MyZone LTF to get Axis atlas but now thinking not to do. If I am ready to do spend 30-40 lakh, why not spend on Magnus and Reserve. This will give far better miles compared to Atlas. The only advantage I see in atlas is flexibility to book any flight/hotel on traveledge with Edge miles which would give better returns if we pay with miles. Other than that if we have to transfer to partner miles then I think Magnus and Reserve will always beat Atlas in all scenario.
I’m not aware of the booking on TravelEdge with edge miles giving better returns. What is that about?

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I almost applied it today before doing calculation. When I can do spend of 15 lakh to get Atlas benefit, why not to do the same on Magnus. In all scenario I was able to end up having more miles compared to Atlas. I applied for Reserve but it got rejected because of 3 card rule, so today cancelled Axis Flipkart and will be re-applying for Reserve. Was planning to cancel MyZone LTF to get Axis atlas but now thinking not to do. If I am ready to do spend 30-40 lakh, why not spend on Magnus and Reserve. This will give far better miles compared to Atlas. The only advantage I see in atlas is flexibility to book any flight/hotel on traveledge with Edge miles which would give better returns if we pay with miles. Other than that if we have to transfer to partner miles then I think Magnus and Reserve will always beat Atlas in all scenario.
I think another use of atlas can be to directly pay at hotel website or POS and be eligible for accelerated edge miles ( 5 per 100 ) , and I was just thinking as axis has started the devaluation is it still better to get Reserve with 50k annual charge . I am not sure whether you will be able to extract max benefit it ? Though there has been not much devaluation on reserve
 

kkk

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I’m not aware of the booking on TravelEdge with edge miles giving better returns. What is that about?

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You get 2 edge miles per 100(normal transaction) when you use Axis atlas cards. And each edge mile is equal to Rs.1 when you redeem it on traveledge. Whereas each edgepoint(received from Magnus/Reserve) is worth Rs. 0.2 on traveledge. So for every transaction of Rs. 200, you get 12 edge points which converts to Rs. 2.4 on traveledge. If you compare to Atlas miles it would be Rs. 4

If you spend Rs. 200
Atlas - You receive 4 edge miles which is worth Rs. 4 on traveledge
Magnus - You receive 12 edge points which is worth Rs. 2.4 on traveledge
Reserve - You receive 15 edge points which is worth Rs. 3 on traveladge

I am not considering milestone for any card. If you start taking milestone, Atlas doesn't stand anywhere(atleast when compared to Magnus).
 

kkk

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I think another use of atlas can be to directly pay at hotel website or POS and be eligible for accelerated edge miles ( 5 per 100 ) , and I was just thinking as axis has started the devaluation is it still better to get Reserve with 50k annual charge . I am not sure whether you will be able to extract max benefit it ? Though there has been not much devaluation on reserve
Yeah but I rarely pay at hotel or do POS. So, I may not able to benefit much.
Again it's depends on usage. If someone uses credit card to pay at hotel regualry then may be it's beneficial.
 

Avijeet

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I was considering taking this trifecta, but why would I chose Atlas card when I already have Magnus. Magnus reward is always better than Atlas. Reserve atleast has some benefits which are better than Magnus but I don't understand what's the advantage of Atlas over Magnus?
I can explain ... but i have limited knowledge .. Kindly read below....
I almost applied it today before doing calculation. When I can do spend of 15 lakh to get Atlas benefit, why not to do the same on Magnus. In all scenario I was able to end up having more miles compared to Atlas. I applied for Reserve but it got rejected because of 3 card rule, so today cancelled Axis Flipkart and will be re-applying for Reserve. Was planning to cancel MyZone LTF to get Axis atlas but now thinking not to do. If I am ready to do spend 30-40 lakh, why not spend on Magnus and Reserve. This will give far better miles compared to Atlas. The only advantage I see in atlas is flexibility to book any flight/hotel on traveledge with Edge miles which would give better returns if we pay with miles. Other than that if we have to transfer to partner miles then I think Magnus and Reserve will always beat Atlas in all scenario.

Say your Total Spend is 30L (@Subhankar clearly said, if your spending is high)
30L in Magnus
So If u do all on MAGNUS (Not considering 10X/5X/3X, for simple calculation)

1,80,000+(25,000X12)= 4,80,000 EdgeRewards = 3,84,000 AirMiles


15L in Magnus + 15L in Atlas

Magnus
90,000+(25,000X12)=3.90,000 EdgeRewards = 3,12,000 AirMiles
Atlas
5000 Welcome +30000 Regular + (2500+5000+10000) Milestone = 52,500 EdgeMiles = 1,05,000 AirMiles

Total= 4,17,000 AirMiles

Over all benefit = 28,000 AirMiles


And assured of renewal benefit of 10000 EdgeMiles .... so from 2nd year 10K additional AirMiles ...

Correct me, if u think I am wrong ...


Yes u have to allocate all 3X, 5X, 10X transactions to Magnus .... and Vanilla transactions to Atlas ....
 

787

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I can explain ... but i have limited knowledge .. Kindly read below....


Say your Total Spend is 30L (@Subhankar clearly said, if your spending is high)
30L in Magnus
So If u do all on MAGNUS (Not considering 10X/5X/3X, for simple calculation)

1,80,000+(25,000X12)= 4,80,000 EdgeRewards = 3,84,000 AirMiles


15L in Magnus + 15L in Atlas

Magnus
90,000+(25,000X12)=3.90,000 EdgeRewards = 3,12,000 AirMiles
Atlas
5000 Welcome +30000 Regular + (2500+5000+10000) Milestone = 52,500 EdgeMiles = 1,05,000 AirMiles

Total= 4,17,000 AirMiles

Over all benefit = 28,000 AirMiles


And assured of renewal benefit of 10000 EdgeMiles .... so from 2nd year 10K additional AirMiles ...

Correct me, if u think I am wrong ...


Yes u have to allocate all 3X, 5X, 10X transactions to Magnus .... and Vanilla transactions to Atlas ....
Great explanation, thank you!

From 2nd year 10k edge miles or air miles?
 

kkk

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I can explain ... but i have limited knowledge .. Kindly read below....


Say your Total Spend is 30L (@Subhankar clearly said, if your spending is high)
30L in Magnus
So If u do all on MAGNUS (Not considering 10X/5X/3X, for simple calculation)

1,80,000+(25,000X12)= 4,80,000 EdgeRewards = 3,84,000 AirMiles


15L in Magnus + 15L in Atlas

Magnus
90,000+(25,000X12)=3.90,000 EdgeRewards = 3,12,000 AirMiles
Atlas
5000 Welcome +30000 Regular + (2500+5000+10000) Milestone = 52,500 EdgeMiles = 1,05,000 AirMiles

Total= 4,17,000 AirMiles

Over all benefit = 28,000 AirMiles


And assured of renewal benefit of 10000 EdgeMiles .... so from 2nd year 10K additional AirMiles ...

Correct me, if u think I am wrong ...


Yes u have to allocate all 3X, 5X, 10X transactions to Magnus .... and Vanilla transactions to Atlas ....
Hmm interesting calculation. I actually had added joining fee in my calculation, so I didn't find this big difference. And ofcourse gyftr usage.
What if I go with Magnus + Reserve and my annual spend is 40 lakh or so

15 lakh on Magnus
3,90,000 edgerewards

25 lakh on Reserve
1,87,000 edgerewards

Card fee - 70,800 (Joining fee for both cards)
Joining and renewal benefit - 1,00,000 edge rewards (Getting from Reserve) + Rs. 10,000 Tatacliq/Yatra(from Magnus)

Total edge points - 677,000, Miles = 541,600
 

kkk

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Hmm interesting calculation. I actually had added joining fee in my calculation, so I didn't find this big difference. And ofcourse gyftr usage.
What if I go with Magnus + Reserve and my annual spend is 40 lakh or so

15 lakh on Magnus
3,90,000 edgerewards

25 lakh on Reserve
1,87,000 edgerewards

Card fee - 70,800 (Joining fee for both cards)
Joining and renewal benefit - 1,00,000 edge rewards (Getting from Reserve) + Rs. 10,000 Tatacliq/Yatra(from Magnus)

Total edge points - 677,000, Miles = 541,600
If you do same calulation for Magnus + Atlas
15 lakh on Magnus
3,90,000 edgerewards

25 lakh on Atlas
67,500 edge miles

Total miles -
312,000 + 135,000 = 447,000

For atlas + reserve
15 lakh on atlas
5000 Welcome +30000 Regular + (2500+5000+10000) Milestone = 52,500 EdgeMiles = 105,000 miles

25 lakh on reserve
1,87,000 edgerewards(regular spends) + 1,00,000 edgepoints (Milestone benefit. Joining + Renewal) = 287,000 edge rewards = 229,600 miles

Total miles -
105,000 + 229,600 = 334,600 miles

So, as per my calculation if we go with Magnus + Reserve upto 40 lakh spends, I think Magnus + Reserve will beat this trifecta easily.

If we consider 55lakh spends with Axis + Reserve combo
15 lakh on Magnus
3,90,000 edgerewards

40 lakh on Reserve
300,000 edge rewards(regular spends) + 1,00,000 (milestone benefit) = 4,00,000 edge rewards

Total edgerewards - 7,90,000
Total miles - 632,000 miles
Trifecta

15 lakh magnus
3,90,000 edgerewards = 312,000 miles

25 lakh reserve
1,87,000 edgerewards(regular spends) + 1,00,000 edgepoints (Milestone benefit. Joining + Renewal) = 287,000 edge rewards = 229,600 miles

15 lakh atlas
5000 Welcome +30000 Regular + (2500+5000+10000) Milestone = 52,500 EdgeMiles = 105,000 miles

Total miles - 646,600 miles

So, we get benefit of 14,600 miles with this trifecta for 55lakh spend with an extra payment of Rs. 5900(Atlas renewal cost).
I don't think it's worth as per above calculation. On top of that Atlas won't provide gyftr accelerated reward points. And hassle of keeping one more card.

Please do let me know if my calculation is wrong. I am trying to apply for Atlas but somehow I am not getting convinced.
 
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