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Riya said:
Either you are one in a million lucky guy or you still haven't tasted the bitter experience of getting these german cars repaired....
no doubt they are gem of a car but way down at bottom when it comes to maintenance
I just shared my 13-14 year of experience with both skoda and VW
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Skoda aur vw ka future hai india me ??

Skoda sirf Slavia ki wajah se survive karra .
VW bhi kuch khas nii .

What do you think ?
 
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Riya said:
Either you are one in a million lucky guy or you still haven't tasted the bitter experience of getting these german cars repaired....
no doubt they are gem of a car but way down at bottom when it comes to maintenance
I just shared my 13-14 year of experience with both skoda and VW
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I am a member of a Skoda WA group and also a VW WA group. So I'm not speaking only for myself but also from the experiences of others. In fact among the cars I have owned the most troublesome/unreliable one was a Maruti Alto.
 
P3T3R_GOA said:
I am a member of a Skoda WA group and also a VW WA group. So I'm not speaking only for myself but also from the experiences of others. In fact among the cars I have owned the most troublesome/unreliable one was a Maruti Alto.
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In 2023 Jul, my car went into safe mode and refused to start even after all efforts...
I had to send it to workshop, found out that the part is not available right now but after couple days I got the message that the part is VIN codes and need to be specially imported from Czech and would take atleast 30 days, cost around 30k+ and best part is that even after all that they won't be sure that error would be solved...
Even basic service costs a bomb... Plus the car's engine system is hebrew for local mechanics
 
Riya said:
In 2023 Jul, my car went into safe mode and refused to start even after all efforts...
I had to send it to workshop, found out that the part is not available right now but after couple days I got the message that the part is VIN codes and need to be specially imported from Czech and would take atleast 30 days, cost around 30k+ and best part is that even after all that they won't be sure that error would be solved...
Even basic service costs a bomb... Plus the car's engine system is hebrew for local mechanics
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Hyundai Verna thik hain ?
 
Riya said:
In 2023 Jul, my car went into safe mode and refused to start even after all efforts...
I had to send it to workshop, found out that the part is not available right now but after couple days I got the message that the part is VIN codes and need to be specially imported from Czech and would take atleast 30 days, cost around 30k+ and best part is that even after all that they won't be sure that error would be solved...
Even basic service costs a bomb... Plus the car's engine system is hebrew for local mechanics
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- Why did the car go into safe mode? The Scanner should have shown that. Did you ask the dealer?
- I don't know which car you use but most parts are shared across the VW group and you can get them easily.
- Basic service includes Synthetic Oil. Maruti, Hyundai, Tata etc use Mineral Oil. Check the prices. Despite that the average service cost is 12K. That's for 15K Kms or 1 year. Maruti service works out more expensive over a 5 year period. Not to mention that VW/Skoda cars usually never need anything other than a regular service.
- Everything is Hebrew for local mechanics. Any competent mechanic who know how to use a scanner and can read a service manual can service a VW/Skoda.

I'd suggest you do a bit of research before posting as misguiding people. Forums are the best source of information.
 
P3T3R_GOA said:
- Why did the car go into safe mode? The Scanner should have shown that. Did you ask the dealer?
- I don't know which car you use but most parts are shared across the VW group and you can get them easily.
- Basic service includes Synthetic Oil. Maruti, Hyundai, Tata etc use Mineral Oil. Check the prices. Despite that the average service cost is 12K. That's for 15K Kms or 1 year. Maruti service works out more expensive over a 5 year period. Not to mention that VW/Skoda cars usually never need anything other than a regular service.
- Everything is Hebrew for local mechanics. Any competent mechanic who know how to use a scanner and can read a service manual can service a VW/Skoda.

I'd suggest you do a bit of research before posting as misguiding people. Forums are the best source of information.
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It's a very particular problem with these cars only...
You can ask on you "WA" groups or your service centre about SAFE MODE in skoda or VW
The odometer display shows Safe mode and the car doesn't ignite on self... It feels as if battery is down but the main problem is far deep rooted and only workshops or very skilled mechanics can diagnose and rectify it...

plus you seem to be defying from starting that nothing can go wrong with german cars..
They are great but only till they are running smoothly..
 
P3T3R_GOA said:
- Why did the car go into safe mode? The Scanner should have shown that. Did you ask the dealer?
- I don't know which car you use but most parts are shared across the VW group and you can get them easily.
- Basic service includes Synthetic Oil. Maruti, Hyundai, Tata etc use Mineral Oil. Check the prices. Despite that the average service cost is 12K. That's for 15K Kms or 1 year. Maruti service works out more expensive over a 5 year period. Not to mention that VW/Skoda cars usually never need anything other than a regular service.
- Everything is Hebrew for local mechanics. Any competent mechanic who know how to use a scanner and can read a service manual can service a VW/Skoda.

I'd suggest you do a bit of research before posting as misguiding people. Forums are the best source of information.
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Riya said:
It's a very particular problem with these cars only...
You can ask on you "WA" groups or your service centre about SAFE MODE in skoda or VW
The odometer display shows Safe mode and the car doesn't ignite on self... It feels as if battery is down but the main problem is far deep rooted and only workshops or very skilled mechanics can diagnose and rectify it...

plus you seem to be defying from starting that nothing can go wrong with german cars..
They are great but only till they are running smoothly..
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+1

I am also surprised with someone even trying to compare German cars cost of ownership to Hyundai or Suzuki.

I have been driving for 20+ years, and have owned a whole lot of cars in multiple different countries where I have lived like India, US, Singapore, Australia

German cars are great while they are under warranty, once the warranty period is over, they are a nightmare to maintain as the spares are crazy expensive and very often difficult to get. This is also clearly reflected in the resale values of Toyota / Hyundai & Suzuki cars globally.

Its easy to say any mechanic with a scanner and good understanding of cars can troubleshoot a VW car, given India and it's road its easier said tham done.

In terms of automobile industry, we are light years behind the western markets. If you see any US highway today, you will rarely see any person with their hands on steering, the cars just drive themselves, roads are good and cars have way less stress on engines and breakdown less often.

Another tell tale sign is the industry which buys the most cars every year (car rental like Avis / Hertz etc) have completed moved away from German cars to Hyundai, Kia, Toyota & Nissan.
 
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