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Axis Trifecta: Axis Reserve, Axis Magnus, Axis Atlas

Subhankar

TF Ace
TF Family
Chief Mod
Axis Bank from being the least rewarding cards, becomes the highest rewarding cards of the current times after the introduction of the Loyalty Program transfer option of Edge Points, as well as they brought the Atlas card with a completely different Point System, called Edge Miles.

The best of the loyalty program conversion comes to the HNI cards, such as Axis One, Reserve, Magnus and ofcourse the Atlas with Edge Miles. Now let's see if you're having Reserve, Magnus and Atlas together, what you can achieve in terms of cost vs reward.

Please do note this trifecta is useful for the high spenders, or I should say, significantly high spenders. You'll be paying significant amount in fees as well.


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Sweet Spots:

💳 Reserve:


1. Flat 6% reward rate
2. 2x RP on forex spends which also do earn 12% reward rate, the highest among all credit cards in India
3. 4 Airport Transfers (few with Merc, BMW, Audi) and 8 Meet and Greet service
4. 12 Guest Visit both on domestic and international lounge along with Unlimited access, even on add-on card and add-on cards' Priority Pass
5. 1.5% forex markup
6. Hotel Memberships like ITC Culinaire, AccorPlus Silver where AccorPlus comes with 2 free night of stay instead of 1 in standard memberships
7. 50K Edge Points both on joining and renewal irrespective of annual fee paid or not

💳 Magnus:

1. Flat 4.8% reward rate
2. Bonus 25K RP on monthly 1L spends which can give return of 24.8%
3. 5x RP on Travel Edge and Gift Edge with no cap on bonus RP earned
4. Markup is 2%, forex spends will earn significant amount of return only when hitting more than 1L monthly spending mark

💳 Atlas:

Makes good sense only if you can spend 15L in a year and has revenue flight booking


1. 5K Edge Miles on joining, 10K EM on renewal if hitting Platinum tier of 15L spending
2. Bonus 10K EM on 15L spends
3. 5x EM on booking through Airline’s website & Travel Edge

Note:

1. Effective from mid of December 2022, Atlas will be earning 2 Edge Miles instead of 1 Edge Miles per ₹100 spent, which makes it direct competitor to Citi Prestige and gives us a hint that Citi Prestige holders may get Atlas after the complete shifting of Citi Bank's business to Axis Bank.
2. You can pay directly to hotels and earn 5x Edge Miles.
3. The milestone is coming is 2,500 , 5,000 , 10,000 Edge Miles, so as stated above, it'd earn 17,500 bonus Edge Miles in total if you spend 15L on you card in a year.


The total Edge Miles earned will be 30K + 17.5K + 5K = 52.5K which will translate into 1,05,000 Loyalty Program points (except Marriott Bonvoy)


Now if you have all of these 3 cards together, you’re paying 65K + GST as fee and for waiver of fee which is applicable only on Magnus & Reserve and you’re looking at 40L of spends on these two cards only for the fee waiver milestone.

Adding Atlas in the trifecta, to get the ideal value, you’re looking at another 15L spends. Accumulating 55L of spends altogether.


Yes, the spends are crazy high, and I had already mentioned it’s for specific set of people only. But very few can hit the ideal spending mark. So alternative?

Now let’s see when you should and shouldn’t get the specific card of this trifecta.

Considering you’re not doing THE IDEAL SPENDING on each of the card.


💳 Reserve:

Makes sense only if you’re a high spender. People with minimum 2-4L of monthly spends.


Have a significant amount of forex spends. 2x the RP. Lower markup of 1.5%. Even after the markup it’s a 10.23% flat return which is still the highest so far among all the cards.

Looking for lifestyle benefits. Be it airport transfers, Meet & Greet, Guest Visit for both Domestic and International airport lounge.

Hotel memberships of ITC Culinaire, AccorPlus Silver which comes with 2 free nights instead of 1. It’s an added benefit from Axis itself.

Keeping it along with Magnus, post 1L put all the spends on Reserve for 6-12% of value back.

Even if you don’t hit the 25L spending milestone and end up paying the fee, you get compensated with 50K Edge RP + renewal of all the other benefits.



💳 Magnus:


Do I even need to explain?

Get this card only if you can pull off 1L spending for at least 4-6 months (no forced spending, please be responsible). I took time to take the card only for this reason as there was not excess 1L spending consistent every month earlier.

Try to maximise with Gift Edge by buying vouchers of your necessary retailers. RP Multiplier, a fast rack way to gather pts.

Even if you don’t hit 15L milestone for fee waiver you get to choose between 10K Tata Cliq voucher & Flight ticket. Well compensated.


💳 Atlas:


A card if properly used can fetch 10% value back if used in the right segment.

Only get if you can put minimum 7.5L spends separately to it to get the Gold Tier. For 5K joining and annual fee you get: 5K + 5K = 10K Edge Miles which translates to 20K loyalty pts except Bonvoy.

This card is super useful for the domestic frequent flyer unless you’re flying Visara. For Vistara, get the Vistara Infinite.

It gives 2x the RP if you’re making reservation through respective airline’s website. Which can fetch 10% return easily.

Note:

Effective from mid of December, 2022, you can pay directly to the hotel to get the 5x Edge Reward Points.



Now, let’s calculate a scenario and total pts earned and convert them to everyone’s favourite KrisFlyer at 5:4 for Magnus and Reserve and at 1:2 for Atlas.

I’m going to take the least amount of expected spending from the respective card holder going by their spending power.



💳 Reserve:

Let’s consider the annual spending 15L. So you’re paying both the fee.


From joining to first year’s renewal:
50K Edge RP x2 = 100K Edge RP

Considering 5L forex spends out of 15L annual spends.
So for 5L forex spends total Edge RP = 75K Edge RP

For the rest of the 10L spends the Edge RP you’ll earn is = 75K

Total Edge RP Earned: 1,00,000 + 75,000 + 75,000 = 2,50,000

KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 2,00,000


Total Fee Paid (including GST): ₹1,18,00


💳 Magnus:

Let’s consider the annual spending is 10L on it and you’re hitting the 1L spending milestone at least 5 times in a year.


If hitting 1L milestone 5 times the total Edge RP you’ll earn = 1,25,00

For 10L spends the total Edge RP earned = 60K

Total Edge RP Earned: 1,25,00 + 60,000= 1,85,000

KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 1,48,000

Total Fee Paid (including GST): ₹23,600



💳 Atlas:

Considering you’re hitting Gold tier by spending 7.5L and you’re doing 3L worth of airline transactions.
For 3L spend you’re getting 5x EM. So you’re getting 15K EM for 3L airline spends.

For the rest 4.5L worth of spend total EM earned = 4.5K (Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 9K Edge Miles instead of 4.5K Edge Miles in this specific spending)

You get 5K Edge Miles as joining benefit

As you’re hitting Gold tier, you’ll get 5K Edge Miles at the time of renewal as well

Adding to that you'll be getting 2 tier milestone of 2.5L and 7.5L spending which are 2.5k Edge Miles and 5k Edge Miles respectively

Total Edge Miles earned: 15K + 4.5K + 5K + 5K +2.5K +5K= 37K (Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 41.5K Edge Miles instead of 37K Edge Miles in this specific spending)

KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 74,00 (Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 98K KrisFlyer Miles instead of 74K KrisFlyer Miles in this specific spending)

Total Fee Paid (including GST): ₹11,800



The Trifecta:


Total Fee Paid: ₹1,53,400 (Joining + Annual including GST)

Total KrisFlyer Miles Earned: 4,07,500
(Effective from mid of December 2022, you'll be getting 446K KrisFlyer Miles instead of 407K KrisFlyer Miles in this specific spending)

For the sake of illustration, that’s about 3 times round trip in Singapore Airlines in F class in BOM/DEL 🔁 SIN route and 1 time BOM/DEL ➡️ SIN one way F class

If you check the revenue cost of this route at same class, the single round trip alone costs 3L which most of us will never pay. In total the points will be 10.5L worth of flight fare.

The fee you pay is high but the reward is HUGE. Not to forget you’re spending 32.5L.

This trifecta is going to serve a lot of people who’ve this amount of spends. If you’re a frequent flyer of Vistara, go grab the Vistara Infinite instead of Atlas.

Is this trifecta going to be useful for you according to your spends? Let me know!
 

raghavb6

TF Buzz
travelling out of India, which option is good?

1. Get Forex card with 10 paisa extra to load the card
2. Axis Atlas Credit card (already have) with 3.5% and GST with 2 edge miles.


which one is good?
 

S D S

TF Buzz
VIP Lounge
We have Reserve and Burgundy Magnus. Reserve is due to expire in May, and I don't feel like spending on it anymore after the great devaluation last year. I switched to infinia but wouldn't mind continuing the Reserve. Are government taxes and utility spends counted towards the annual spend limit even if there is no reward point or cashback? The luxury car pick and drop in Reserve is lovely 😆
 

Hisoka

TF Ace
I recently received Atlas after closing my Magnus. Have few doubts

1. It’s been 6 days and miles have not been credited. How much time does it take for the same?

2. Do miles received on travel and regular miles take same time to credit?

3. Websites like MMT, Cleartrip, Yatra etc will give 5 miles per 100 on both flight and hotel bookings right?

4. Do offline payments at hotels (at reception) give 5 miles per 100?
 

Hisoka

TF Ace
1. After 25 Feb, due to software upgrade
2. Normally 3--7 days
3. 2 Atlas Edge miles per 100, because these are travel agencies and not hotels or Airlines.
4. Yes
Whatt? I booked like 40k worth of flights and hotels with this and I’ll only get 4%? 🥲

What’s the use of it then? Who books directly from hotel or airlines. Most of us use these websites only.
 

helloworld

TF Legend
Whatt? I booked like 40k worth of flights and hotels with this and I’ll only get 4%? 🥲

What’s the use of it then? Who books directly from hotel or airlines. Most of us use these websites only.

thats how these cards works and btw, its not recent changes. its product feature and there for long time. You should check t&cs once.

same applies premier miles and most miles only cards.
 

Hisoka

TF Ace
thats how these cards works and btw, its not recent changes. its product feature and there for long time. You should check t&cs once.

same applies premier miles and most miles only cards.
I know, I’m not blaming them. But I can’t just read tnc pdf of each and every card. Flights and hotels should mean flights and hotels from anywhere, never anywhere on this community or on their website it was clearly mentioned that third party website won’t be eligible for the same.
 

helloworld

TF Legend
But I can’t just read tnc pdf of each and every card.
You shoud and must before applying and spending money on them. Its your money that takes these cards.

Hardly 10 - 15 cards from each bank and at max. 5 useful cards in each of them. Knowing about them won't harm or consume much time, IMO. Its like a game where 100's of characters with different abilities available, and inorder to choose only 5 of them to play in that session we must know our spending style and pick best card in them after knowing their pros & cons. Thats how we get best in our play.

Flights and hotels should mean flights and hotels from anywhere,

I'm not defending this card, but this very card product page has this info..

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They clearly mentioned MCCs for 5 edge miles here which in Google provides direct airline or hotels.

for your requirement you might consider YES Reserve with Travel subscription which can provide more rewards.

never anywhere on this community or on their website it was clearly mentioned that third party website won’t be eligible for the same.

its there on website and on this very community. this is hot card since magnus devaluation, I hope you know every one considered all possibilites to get 5 edge miles using this card.

Some random search page results:



and usual locations by community mods:


@drsel has good info about atlas, you can search directly under this user posts or DM to know more about atlas limitations.
 
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Lobogris

TF Ace
VIP Lounge
I know, I’m not blaming them. But I can’t just read tnc pdf of each and every card. Flights and hotels should mean flights and hotels from anywhere, never anywhere on this community or on their website it was clearly mentioned that third party website won’t be eligible for the same.
You don’t need to read the whole document but even a quick look at the benefits page on the website or anywhere else would make it clear that 5x rewards are available only if you book via their Traveledge portal or directly via an airline or hotel. It is clearly mentioned that aggregators like MMT would not fetch accelerated rewards. Really clear and not hidden somewhere.
 

Hisoka

TF Ace
You shoud and must before applying and spending money on them. Its your money that takes these cards.

Hardly 10 - 15 cards from each bank and at max. 5 useful cards in each of them. Knowing about them won't harm or consume much time, IMO. Its like a game where 100's of characters with different abilities available, and inorder to choose only 5 of them to play in that session we must know our spending style and pick best card in them after knowing their pros & cons. Thats how we get best in our play.



I'm not defending this card, but this very card product page has this info..

1708233089894.png

They clearly mentioned MCCs for 5 edge miles here which in Google provides direct airline or hotels.

for your requirement you might consider YES Reserve with Travel subscription which can provide more rewards.



its there on website and on this very community. this is hot card since magnus devaluation, I hope you know every one considered all possibilites to get 5 edge miles using this card.

Some random search page results:



and usual locations by community mods:


@drsel has good info about atlas, you can search directly under this user posts or can ping to know more about atlas limitations.
Thanks a lot! That helps
 
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