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Are ULIPs really bad? A detailed analysis

Ulip is not viable option to invest..it give only 4-5 % returns on long run. Below than fixed-deposit rate. never buy ulip instead buy pure term plan and rest amount in equity/debt funds, which give higher return & higher coverage.
How did you come to this conclusion? It is bound to provide similar or better returns than a regular mutual fund if held till maturity. Please present some evidence to back your claim. I can show you that the funds in my ULIP have delivered 26% over the past decade. Even if we take 10 to 20% of the initial investment out and assume it gets 10% as it is doubled in 10 years, the rest of the 80 to 90% corpus would grow similar to any mutual fund. Then the 12.5% tax savings and the return of all FMC would add a considerable amount which would further increase the yield. Now, if you take a ULIP and look at it after 3 years, then it is bound to look bad.
 
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I analysed some of the ULIPs and found following.

First disadvantage is your whole money will not be invested because of the charges mentioned in the post.

Also there are some GST as well which further reduces the investment amount.

Second disadvantage I saw was ULIP provided funds usually provides less return as compared to the mutual funds of the similar category. This I am talking about after deducting 12.5% capital gain tax.

Third is although you are getting insurance charges back which is double of the amount after 10 years and if you calculate XIRR/CAGR then you will find these values very less as compared to MFs.

This I understood after analyzing multiple proposals which I got from various banks.

None of the ULIP sellers were having proper responses of these flaws.

In the end everyone told sir please take just for further diversification and tax advantages etc.
More inputs are welcome on this as well.🙂🙂
I agree.
Also just think why bank RM wants to sell ulips so badly. It's because commission on these are quite lucrative and the amount of commission is directly or indirectly paid by us only in the form of higher charges
 
I analysed some of the ULIPs and found following.

First disadvantage is your whole money will not be invested because of the charges mentioned in the post.

Also there are some GST as well which further reduces the investment amount.

Second disadvantage I saw was ULIP provided funds usually provides less return as compared to the mutual funds of the similar category. This I am talking about after deducting 12.5% capital gain tax.

Third is although you are getting insurance charges back which is double of the amount after 10 years and if you calculate XIRR/CAGR then you will find these values very less as compared to MFs.

This I understood after analyzing multiple proposals which I got from various banks.

None of the ULIP sellers were having proper responses of these flaws.

In the end everyone told sir please take just for further diversification and tax advantages etc.
More inputs are welcome on this as well.🙂🙂
My ULIP fund which is a mid cap one, has provided 26% returns in the past decade which is similar or better than other category mutual funds. There is a small opportunity cost loss for about 10% of the investment in the initial period but that is made up by tax free status as well as the return of all FMC paid. So overall, the returns would be similar. The main drawback is the long commitment.
 
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My ULIP fund which is a mid cap one, has provided 26% returns in the past decade which is similar or better than other category mutual funds. There is a small opportunity cost loss for about 10% of the investment in the initial period but that is made up by tax free status as well as the return of all FMC paid. So overall, the returns would be similar. The main drawback is the long commitment.
Bro markets have rose lucrativly post COVID, so 26% seems very good, but unlikely to repeat again( although I am not saying that it cannot)
 
Bro markets have rose lucrativly post COVID, so 26% seems very good, but unlikely to repeat again( although I am not saying that it cannot)
Definitely. Similarly, other mutual funds won’t perform as well either. My point is that ULIP invests in mutual funds only. Therefore, it will offer similar returns compared to overall market performance. If most mutual funds deliver 10%, so will the ULIP one. Obviously, it can have some variation but it would be similar.
 
My ULIP fund which is a mid cap one, has provided 26% returns in the past decade which is similar or better than other category mutual funds. There is a small opportunity cost loss for about 10% of the investment in the initial period but that is made up by tax free status as well as the return of all FMC paid. So overall, the returns would be similar. The main drawback is the long commitment.
can you help me with the name of the midcap fund in which you have invested via ULIP?
 
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My ULIP fund which is a mid cap one, has provided 26% returns in the past decade which is similar or better than other category mutual funds. There is a small opportunity cost loss for about 10% of the investment in the initial period but that is made up by tax free status as well as the return of all FMC paid. So overall, the returns would be similar. The main drawback is the long commitment.
After covid all equity index was double/tripled...26% below industry average due to covid inflation. In 2015 midcap index was around 13000. today midcap index is around 57000 (Around 600%). Now calculate yourself how much return given to you against inflation.
Money is your.
In another example: Gold price in 2015 around 30000, today 100000 (330 %).
26 % returns is nothing against inflation. Actully you lose your money by investing in ulip.
 
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I will try and present an unbiased analysis of my ULIP from HDFC in order to discuss the positive and negative aspects of modern ULIPs. Most plans have a premium payment term of 10 to 15 years. The premium ranges from 50k to just over 2 lakhs as 2.5 lakhs is the maximum annual premium allowed for it to be tax free. My premium is a bit over 2 lakhs with a payment period of 10 years and a life insurance cover of 50 lakhs along with 50 lakhs of dismemberment and another 50 lakhs of disability coverage. The duration of the policy is 25 years. Some people would think that they got a better deal as their premium is lower or their payment period is smaller but this is like any investment: more you invest, more your corpus will be at the end.

Key Factors:

Negative Factors

Premium allocation charges:


These are collected typically for the first 4 years and are as follows:

12% for 1st year
6% for the 2nd year
4% for the 3rd year
3% for the 4th year
None from the 5th year onwards

NOTE: these charges are refunded 2X (double the amount paid) after 10 years. The charges collected in the 1st year are refunded via addition to the fund in the 11th year and the charges collected in the second year are refunded in the 11th year and so on. So we can sort of assume that we are allocating a portion of our investment in a fixed deposit that would double it in 10 years with a tax equivalent yield of 11% for this portion. However, there is some lost opportunity cost here.


Mortality charges:

These are the most insidious and perhaps the most harmful aspect of a ULIP. These charges vary by age and are collected daily by selling off your NAV units. There is a specific formula approved by IRDAI which is used to Calculate these charges. The older you are, the higher the charge and the higher the sum assured, the higher the charge as well. As a rough example, for a 30 year old, with a 50 lakh sum assured, this charge would be 0.8305 per 1000 of sum assured. This would translate to Rs 4152 annually. For a person at age 40, the charges would be 1.4280 per 1000, which would be 7140 per year. As you get older, these charges shoot up dramatically. At 50, you would pay 18853 per year, at 60, Rs 47438 and at 70 years old, you would pay a horrendous 1.02 lakhs per year!

See below as well.
Silver lining:

Firstly, these charges are imposed on the amount at risk for the insurer. The policy pays the sum insured or your corpus balance, whichever is higher (sum at risk minus fund value). When your corpus is zero, the insurer is bearing the risk for the full 50 lakhs and these charges would be calculated on full 50 lakhs sum insured. When your corpus has grown to 10 lakhs, the sum at risk is now 40 lakhs and the charges would be claculated on 40 lakhs value. When your corpus reaches 20 lakhs, the charges are based upon the remaining 30 lakhs value and if and when your corpus reaches 50 lakhs, the charges become zero. So the hope is that your corpus grows quickly to 20 to 30 lakhs in 10 years in order to reduce these charges as you grow older. The illustration at 8% growth (maximum permitted by IRDAI) shows that corpus at 25 lakhs at 10 years and 50 lakhs at around 18 years. However, the funds have grown historically at 26% and one can assume that one wouldn’t have to pay mortality charges after about 15 years unless there is a very long downturn the stock market.

Refunded at 2X. Even better feature is that these mortality charges are refunded back at 2X the amount paid starting from the 10th year. This is done by adding units monthly just as they were deducted. So, once again, we can assume that we are dedicating a portion of our investment to a fixed deposit that would double it in 10 years tax free.

Policy administration charge:

This is capped at 6k per year with no charges for the first 5 years.

Fund management charge:

This is 1.35% per year which is similar to most non direct mutual funds.

NOTE: These charges are fully refunded (1X) at the end of the policy term. So there would be a fairly large addition of 10 to 30 lakhs at the end to the corpus depending upon its total value.


Lock in period:

There is a minimum 5 year lock in period. You can surrender you policy earlier with a fee of 3k for the first year which falls to 1.5k in the 3rd year. When you surrender it before 5 years, the corpus amount is transferred to a fixed deposit type of account which pays 3.5% (4% minus 0.5% admin charge) and this is returned to the customer after the completion of 5 years. After 5 years, you can make partial or total withdraws without any fee but it would be foolish to do so. Overall, you are stuck for at least 15 years if you want to recover some of the charges and reap any benefit.

Riders:
You are forced to purchase mandatory riders for disability and dismemberment. These add up to a mostly wasted premium of around 5k per year for 10 years.

GST:
You end up paying GST charge of 4% which translates to around 8k per year for 10 years.


Positive Factors

Free unlimited switching:


You can switch your fund and future premiums from one fund type to another, including bond funds. You can do this fully or in any mix of percentages. For example, if you are in fund X at 100% allocation, you can move 50% to bonds and 20% to Fund B and 30% to fund C and so on. There is no fee and you can do this as often as you like. In case of a downturn in the market, you can move your corpus to a bond fund and wait it out without having to liquidate and pay tax like you would in a normal mutual fund.

Tax advantage:

The entire gains would remain tax free. This directly provides a 12.5% current and likely a 20% future tax benefit as tax on equity is bound to rise. On an 80 lakh corpus, we are talking about 16 lakhs in tax benefit. Even a 50 lakh corpus means 10 lakhs saved at the likely 20% tax rate. Even at current tax rate, you would save 6 to 10 lakhs.

Insurance component:

Personally, 50 lakhs isn't a large amount for me. However, this sum insured of 50 lakhs for life and disability, can be a reasonably significant amount for some people. In which case, they can enjoy an additional benefit.

Premium payment rewards:

Using my Biz Black, I can get 16.5% cashback on premium payment! Using Infinia and Amazon Pay, I can get around 12% and using SBI Cashback Card via Apay, I can get 5% cashback. This isn’t possible in normal mutual fund investment. The premium can be paid annually, quarterly or monthly. 16.5% cashback on my annual premium is a cool 36k which more than makes up for any opportunity cost loss.

Refund of Fund Maintenance Charges:

All charges collected during the tenure are refunded at the end. This can easily become a nice sum of 10 to 15 lakhs in refund, depending upon your corpus value. For example, if your corpus were valued at 60 lakhs, the maintenance charge for the year would be 81k. The 8% illustration shows a refund of over 10 lakhs. If the fund grows at 12 or 16%, the corpus would be much larger and this refund would be even higher.

Helps improve relationship with the bank:

Bankers love ULIPs due to high charges and it can help you become a more premium customer and can lead to some benefits.

Conclusion:

A ULIP is only worth it if it is held for at least 15 plus years. If you look at its performance in the first year or two, it will be abysmal due to the high allocation plus mortality charges. So the first 5 years are bound to show a terrible picture and most people become disheartened and give up. It’s only after the 2x refunds start getting added starting from the 10th year when you would start seeing good performnce. The long lock in period is a negative but, in a way, it helps by ensuring that you are invested for the long run. I would welcome comments and discussion. The figures as well as the refund of charges is taken from the policy document and is guaranteed. So, please don’t come up with arguments like, ‘they are lying, they won’t refund anything’ as it is an official contract document. It’s like having a fixed deposit at the rate of 8% and arguing that the bank won’t actually pay. We can discuss other aspects such as the loss due to opportunity cost and so on. In general, you can do better with a mutual fund as it provides flexibility without any long lock in period.
Never mix investment and insurance. 5 year lock in period + heavy loss after discontinuation of policy after free look out period. Holding it for 15+ years? Anyone can get triple the returns from MF as long term investment. Apart from tax free there isn't a logical reason to opt for it unless you want to make agents rich! You can get 2 Cr term cover for 2k per month. Why bother justifying it when inflation is 6% and better products with high return are available which can counter inflation.
 
I believe 7500 is the total cap for all accelerated rewards. You can’t buy Smartbuy vouchers on Biz Black.
I think the accelerated cap of BizBlack is 10,000 RPs for SmartBuy shopping / vouchers and additional 7500 RPs for tax, gst etc.
If BizBlack is floater to Infinia then we have to consider Infinia’s capping of 15,000 as a whole for both on SmartBuy but the 7500 part is additional.
 
I believe 7500 is the total cap for all accelerated rewards. You can’t buy Smartbuy vouchers on Biz Black.
You can buy vouchers but reward rate won’t be as lucrative as Infinia.
It’s 3x in BizBlack. I’m new to this BizBlack as floater thing so I experimented on gyftr last month 😬
Bought Amazon GC worth 1500 and got 100 accelerated RPs.

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I didn’t get accelerated RPs on LPG and DTH paid via PayZapp/SmartBuy so I’m gonna call Infinia Customer Care and eat their brains in the evening 🤣
 
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You can buy vouchers but reward rate won’t be as lucrative as Infinia.
It’s 3x in BizBlack. I’m new to this BizBlack as floater thing so I experimented on gyftr last month 😬
Bought Amazon GC worth 1500 and got 100 accelerated RPs.

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I didn’t get accelerated RPs on LPG and DTH paid via PayZapp/SmartBuy so I’m gonna call Infinia Customer Care and eat their brains in the evening 🤣th
You can buy vouchers but reward rate won’t be as lucrative as Infinia.
It’s 3x in BizBlack. I’m new to this BizBlack as floater thing so I experimented on gyftr last month 😬
Bought Amazon GC worth 1500 and got 100 accelerated RPs.

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I didn’t get accelerated RPs on LPG and DTH paid via PayZapp/SmartBuy so I’m gonna call Infinia Customer Care and eat their brains in the evening 🤣
the accelerated biz black points (payzapp section) will be credited next day usually or day after tomorrow sometimes, and it will redeemable from next months. You will receive text message once those points gets credited.
You can buy vouchers but reward rate won’t be as lucrative as Infinia.
It’s 3x in BizBlack. I’m new to this BizBlack as floater thing so I experimented on gyftr last month 😬
Bought Amazon GC worth 1500 and got 100 accelerated RPs.

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I didn’t get accelerated RPs on LPG and DTH paid via PayZapp/SmartBuy so I’m gonna call Infinia Customer Care and eat their brains in the evening 🤣
the accelerated biz black points (payzapp section) will be credited next day usually or day after tomorrow sometimes, and it will redeemable from next months. You will receive text message once those points gets credited.
 
You can buy vouchers but reward rate won’t be as lucrative as Infinia.
It’s 3x in BizBlack. I’m new to this BizBlack as floater thing so I experimented on gyftr last month 😬
Bought Amazon GC worth 1500 and got 100 accelerated RPs.

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I didn’t get accelerated RPs on LPG and DTH paid via PayZapp/SmartBuy so I’m gonna call Infinia Customer Care and eat their brains in the evening 🤣
My mistake. I forgot the 50,000 spend criteria for 5X 7500 accelerated RPs on tax and utilities. That’s why got the base RPs only.
Will focus on GST payments only from now on lol
 
I was looking at the performance of Discovery fund and I found following:

  • Fund is going to complete 7 years so not 10 years old.
  • Alpha is not that much high if I look at trailing returns. Following is the screenshot:
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  • I calculated the CAGR of NIFTY MIDCAP 100 Index which is the benchmark of this fund then I found it has given around 15.38% CAGR from 31st July 2015 to 31st July 2025. I took closing of 31st July 2015 and closing of 31st July 2025 to calculate the CAGR.
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  • if I take 1% Alpha (historically I don't see more than 1% Alpha) of this fund then we can expect around 16.4% CAGR return in 10 years.

Can you please check if your returns are really around 26%?
Also as your whole 2L will not be invested as some part of mortality/insurance/GST, etc. will be deducted from the 2L so this will further reduce your return.

Just giving my views why I didn't go ahead with ULIPs as HDFC Midcap, which is renowned MFs since last few years, gave around 18% CAGR and if I reduce 12.5% will give you 15.75% return but you can do tax harvesting and can reduce tax further and also almost whole 2L will be invested.

If I don't consider the CC rewards which you receive then ULIP is less lucrative than the MFs.
 
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